Grateful collaboration of Alfredo Escande
– disciple
and biographer of Abel Carlevaro
(brief interview)
(brief interview)
(TP) The effectiveness of Abel Carlevaro's
school is already established and concrete - it is the ideal of technique at
the service of music, in general matter. However - more specifically - do you
have news of writings by Abel Carlevaro, which were dedicated directly to so
called "extended techniques"?
Or have you ever seen any application of
techniques in specific, published or not, steered to contemporary /
experimental repertoire?
(AE) Carlevaro had had within his plans, to write a
paper about non-traditional technical resources, which often is called
"extended technique" nowadays. Indeed, we started writing drafts, but
more urgent things made postpone this goal and he didn’t crystallize it. He was
always exploring different sound possibilities, and often I witnessed his
exemplifications on various techniques (either alone in his studio as for
several international courses). Moreover, a deep conversation about these
subjects with Maurice Ohana in Paris, in 1974, forged a work, in fact, made by
"two heads and four hands", that is "Estelas" (I've wrote
the story of this work together with Ruben Seroussi, as part of my book about
Carlevaro).
(TP) Although has been admitted the presence
of dissonances, creating works such as Cronomías and others, implies a paradigm
shift in such way to understand / feel the guitar, as an openness to new points
of view, from a traditional listening to another diverse, from the technique
already acquired to the extended one – How it was for Carlevaro? Would it be by
contact with colleagues and pieces or we can speak of a kind of
"zeitgeist" at those years 60/70 motivating him?
(AE) I think these motivations in Carlevaro are before
the date you mention: the contact with Villa-Lobos in the first half of the 40s
has started to open his mind, and the same can be said of his contact with
Ohana at the end of that decade, and Santórsola in the 60s, and - what is most
important - your own restless spirit and open-minded for search and experience.
(TP) Admitting the Carlevaro's school, in the
strict sense, comparisons are inevitable ... Sor, Tárrega, the ancient methods
by writers like Sanz ... and these with a strong connection to their own
compositions, it means that do a "school" involves do pieces, play
these studies and works.
In Carlevaro would we have to do the same?
Must we go beyond his technical books? So, although compare them would be
imperfect, the idea is: doing his technique already would clarify and reduce
the problems, however do your school in total ... technique, exercises and –
above all - his works, so would the meaning of the Carlevaro's school be done, in
full?
(AE) I think the school sense created by Carlevaro
cannot be ended in his technical books. It will not be understood, if it
doesn't link directly to an aesthetic conception of the guitar, conceived in
real terms (and easily noticeable by listening carefully his recordings) as a
"small orchestra". Technique books are only a help to lay the
foundation to acquire the mechanical fundamentals that can lead to a proper
application of these aesthetic criteria. Just by themselves, they have no value
(and may even result in negative way: as he has told me, almost literally, when
he talked me of his urge to write a theory book: "In Europe they are using
my books (Cuadernos de Técnica) without any idea of how to do it and what it is
for, and this can be a disaster" – he told me, and concluded:" I have
to write the book of theory", and it was when he asked me to help him to
do this).
To really get into the Carlevaro school is very
important to study and deeply understand his five books of "Applied
Technique" (Sor, Villa-Lobos and Bach master classes, already published
and unpublished studies about Carcassi).
It is also important to study and understand entirely –
his right hand use criteria, your search for (tone) colours, etc. – the
music created by him, and also deeply analyse how he did fingerings, arrangements
and performance of other authors and be able to understand the reasons for why
he did it.
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